20100505 UT US Senate Debate (Doug Wright)

This was a debate that was recorded with Doug Wright that I listened to.

When Action Who What
5/5/2010 10:07:28 AM Introductions Doug Wright “We have expanded this out to a two hour format.
Opening statement, 90 seconds each. We have solicited the listeners questions. We need to stay close to our time.
We will ask questions and rotate through. We will do drawings to see who speaks first. Opening statements two minutes.
Mike Lee
Senator Bob Bennett
Tim Bridgewater
Cherilyn Eagar
Mike is beginning right now. Opening statement.”
5/5/2010 10:09:01 AM Information Mike Lee “Our government is too big and expensive. Congress has failed to read the Constitution and failed to focus on the text. I believe that it was written with inspiration. We should have limited powers. We need to keep our powers in check.
Interstate, trade, national defense, declaring war and copyright are what the national govenrment should have. Congress has been allowed to stop reading the Constitution. If the Supreme Court allows it we can do it. If we read th text and follow it, we will allow people to do what they do best.”
5/5/2010 10:10:33 AM Information Bob Bennett We have four job applications all seeking the same position. Which one can do the job best? We all love the Constitution we are all conservatives and there is not that much difference which one is best qualified. When you interview for a job you look at their background and their ability to perform. This is not about who can give the best sound bite but what they can do. I want to let you know that I am capable of doing the job. We are not talking about a college course but a job that must be done for the next six years.
5/5/2010 10:11:58 AM Information Tim Bridgewater “I agree with Senator Bennett that it is about the future. But most parents believe their kids won’t have it as good as they had it. We have too much debt that we are putting on our children. We are putting a tax burden on them that is unconscionable.
Congress has put too high a burden on the entire country. Harry Reid is down 16 points. We have to send conservatives back to Washington. We need to reduce the power and control in Washington. We need to limit the programs there.
We will devalue our currency and make it harder to compete in this world so we need to fix this.”
5/5/2010 10:13:37 AM Information Cherilyn Eagar I grew up in a conservative home. My parents spoke on the danger of socialized medicine back in Reagan’s day. I have stood for limited government for years. I am passionate about protecting our state government from the Federal government. As a Mom and a Grandma I am passionate about protecting my children and grand children. We need to send someone we can trust and we need to take those who will stand on principle for a change. Fiscal restraint.
5/5/2010 10:15:18 AM Break Doug Wright “Quit smoking commercial.
Bridgewater commercial.
Credit counseling commercial.”
5/5/2010 10:20:15 AM Question Doug Wright I asked for an indulgence. Active voters and delegates were polled and studied. Most of what we discovered was that Republican delegates seem to be out of the mainstream with the Utah active voters. The mainstream voters, mainstream Republicans and the Delegates. What is your reaction to that?
5/5/2010 10:21:44 AM Answer Bob Bennett “I have been involved in Utah politics for a long time. I have a seen a number of conventions. I have never seen it tilted as much as this time. The delegates play a bigger role here than in other states.
I think they should also realize they don’t just represent those who showed up at the cuacus, but they represent everyone in their precincts. They should try and represent everyone in their precinct.
Maybe the divisions and anger are getting to the point that it is not good for the state or system. We should have the delegates winnow down but let a primary happen.”
5/5/2010 10:23:25 AM Answer Tim Bridgewater “I have spent hours and hours across the state. The delegates take their responsibility seriously. They are spending hours of time. I have met over 2500 of the 3500 delegates. They may be more conserverative than the mainstream. They are not couch potatoes. They are involved in the organization. I hope we never lose the delegate process.
We have to go one on one and talk to them about what we care about. They get a better sense and will make a good and intelligent well prepared decision. I like the process.”
5/5/2010 10:24:50 AM Answer Cherilyn Eagar “I have lived in a number of other states. Not only is Utah the best managed but they have the best voting process. When you look at primary only states it is very costly and limits it to billionaires. This is truly grassroots here. You can participate and get involved in any neighborhood.
We don’t have a democracy but a republic in this country. Our party follows that. I have never seen anything like this in 2010. Delegates are doing their job. Those who are complaining that they didn’t get represented should have shown up.”
5/5/2010 10:26:19 AM Answer Mike Lee “The more prominent the role the more will show up at caucuses. I agree anyone who is elected should represent everyone in their jurisdiction. It is those who show up to vote that will decide who will show up on the ballots. Anyone who is a registered member of the Republican party will get to vote in an open process.
These delegates are people who are well educated and will vote well. The disparity may be due to the fact that the delegates might have been studying more than the rest of us.”
5/5/2010 10:28:00 AM Break Doug Wright
5/5/2010 10:36:42 AM Question Doug Wright “This is a composite question. States rights appears to be the number one issue. Illegal immigration is up on the front burner again. The common denominator is clearly in federal territory where the responsibility should lie. “”Are you going to get rid of the illegals or what?”””
5/5/2010 10:37:51 AM Answer Tim Bridgewater “It is going to taek mreo that 90 seconds to take care of thei promblem. I receivea an endosresevemt formt he minutatin aman progject.
The federal government has left a closed door for legal and open for illegal. Arizona and other states are taking this in to their own hands. This is one of the few issues that we should spend money on.
More patrols, fence, imagery. We then need to remove the extra programs that encourage illegals. We then need to enforce what we have. We have to step up to the plate and secure the borders.”
5/5/2010 10:39:32 AM Answer Cherilyn Eagar “I am fortunate to have received a thumbs up with Numbers USA. He is the most credible with the anti-immigration groups. I have received a phone call from AZ representative who wrote the bill. How novel to have a bill that says it is illegal to be illegal.
What do we do? Hold the employers accountable. Arizona did that over a year ago. The definition of insanity is to continue doing what we are doing with guest worker programs here now.
Oppose amnesty and beef up border.
Have two fences. Then deal with them in between.”
5/5/2010 10:41:07 AM Answer Mike Lee “We need to enforce what we have with their employment and status. Hire more personnel if needed. We can eliminate the incentive.
We need to eliminate the birthright as well.
Those who have criticized Arizona as unconstitutional are off. They can act based on their need to defend themselves. There is a power for the Federal government. There is nothing in Article 1 section 10 that says Arizona can’t do this. They can say that it violates their law. It is appropriate.”
5/5/2010 10:42:39 AM Answer Bob Bennett “The previous converatation assumes nothing has been done. The amount of immigration has gone down with 4 billion we sent. We have hired more and trained more. It takes about 18 months to properly train immigration workers. It is a serious challenge.
I resent that the fedral govenrment has “”done nothing.”” Immigration has gone down as we have acted.
I voted to do this and we came close to having what needed.”
5/5/2010 10:44:17 AM Question Doug Wright I have a question here about bipartisanship. There are some who feel that it is a problem. Everyone says bipartisanship, what would you do to improve it?
5/5/2010 10:45:06 AM Answer Cherilyn Eagar “We have to look at the quote on insanity again because of what we have continued to do. We have reached across the aisle and been pulled to the other side. We need to pull them to our side. We need to stand on principles.
People are desperate and crying for this kind of leadership. It is like the Emperors new clothes. It took the one little boy to say that the Emperor had no clothes and others will follow.
If I can be that person I am gald to be that.”
5/5/2010 10:46:21 AM Answer Mike Lee “Compromise and collaboration are needed to make change. It is something that needs to happen in the Senate. You need to be able to persuade them to follow your idea. I believe that this needs to be based on principles.
We should go for Constitution limiting government. I don’t believe cooperating just for the sake of getting something done does do anything for us. I would rather vote no rather than increase the problems. It is not cooperation for the end thereof.”
5/5/2010 10:47:48 AM Answer Bob Bennett “This has been what I have been criticized for. “”We want you on FoxNews screaming””. One of the issues that has torn this State apart has been wilderness. We now have a solution to the wilderness challenge in the most contentious county. The bill that got that done was written by me and Matheson and Obama signed it.
It was done in a bipartisan way. We can’t just talk about compromise. I have never compromised my principles. We have to get the job done versus screaming.”
5/5/2010 10:49:22 AM Answer Tim Bridgewater “I think many of the people are unhappy with the red rock deal in Washington County. Nevada got a lot more than we did. They took more land into wilderness than was proposed.
I would try and forge compromise on citicial issues like entitlements. We need real reform.
WE are giving up our lands and sovereignty to DC .
WE have to reduce the debt and stop deficit spending. I am hoping that Democrats who are voted in will join me in getting this debt down.”
5/5/2010 10:51:11 AM Break Doug Wright
5/5/2010 10:53:45 AM Question Doug Wright What would you like to see ultimately on income tax?
5/5/2010 10:54:01 AM Answer Mike Lee I would like to see a single rate. I don’t care if it is income based on one hand or consumption on the other hand. It would make it simpler and easier to enforce and not cheat. Our current system exempts almost half of the country. We need to pay for it somehow. When everyone participates they get a stake and have some buy in.
5/5/2010 10:55:06 AM Answer Bob Bennett “I want to respond to Tim Bridgewaters comment about. The bill I was talking about was with the Washington county. He missed exactly what we were doing.
With taxes we should raise money to pay for government. Every time it tries to be “”fair”” it breaks. I want it simple and competitive. It needs to be efficient so that it is easy to manage, fair or flat either way.”
5/5/2010 10:56:40 AM Answer Tim Bridgewater “I am a big fan of multi-use on our lands and I think that is in the best interest of the state.
On taxes I believe in the Fair tax. I believe we should abolish the 16th amendment. We are tying up our industry as the government taxes businesses more.
A fair tax would improve what we have because people would keep what they have and will spend it.”
5/5/2010 10:57:51 AM Answer Cherilyn Eagar “I agree with Reagan who reduced the marginal rate.
I support the fair tax (fairtax.org). Our founders taxed foreign nations through tarrifs to pay for government. Our government couldn’t do that because it is so bloated.
Maybe every state could decide how they will raise their portion of the revenue. I think this option should be on the table or part of the discussion.”
5/5/2010 10:59:10 AM Break Doug Wright
5/5/2010 11:07:40 AM Question Doug Wright Energy independence.
5/5/2010 11:08:51 AM Answer Bob Bennett “We have enough energy in our area here and in Canada. It doesn’t follow politics. We could dwarf Saudi Arabia for a number of years. We just can’t get it out of the ground. The environmental movement wants to stop us getting it out.
Salazar talks a good fight on that. He spoke with Governor Herbert but they are still blocking. I held up their appointment of the Deputy Secretary until he visited here. We need to get them to recognize our multiple use for using enery.”
5/5/2010 11:10:22 AM Answer Tim Bridgewater “The dependency on our 70% of oil from out of the country is wrong. We could create jobs and economic development. We care about our environment. We need to create jobs and allow things economically so we can do things as a nation.
I believe that we have to fight dramatically. Some democrats will come out our side for independence.
I believe we should expand nuclear and clean coal. We need to build more power plants. Renewables can become more viable.”
5/5/2010 11:11:53 AM Answer Cherilyn Eagar “When I was a child I was taught that we bought Alaska for resources.
We opened a Suez Canal and got our oil from the Middle East. We have funded terrorism by buying their resource.
I support immmient domeant.
Repeal Antiquities Act that he can sign away things as Monuments. I would love to give my copy of the Constitution to Obama and ask him where his power exists.
Our environment will be just fine. We have had issues like this in the past and we’re still here.”
5/5/2010 11:13:19 AM Answer Mike Lee “I agree with the other comments. We have a supply of oil shale that contains more that a trillion barrels. That is more oil than in the other country reserves. The reason that it is not produced commercially is that even though 2005 Act was in place the Democrats defunded the implementation of the charge of this act. I believe the production will start if the lands are leased. Utah could become a very wealthy state. We can produce at or below $50 per barrel.
This should be one of the first acts to be funded.”
5/5/2010 11:14:51 AM Question Doug Wright This round of elections is different than others. I have talked to those who love the Constitution and I feel that some people don’t have a clue of what the doucment is. Some haven’t really mined the document. Since the Constitution is being thrown around like a six iron in a western. What does it mean?
5/5/2010 11:16:11 AM Answer Tim Bridgewater “the founding of our country was so extraordinary. I worked for Jack Kemp and it was about private property too. I view the Constitution as an economic freedom document. A limited government as enumerated and the private sector is supposed to thrive and have some protections by contracts.
Congress doesn’t reference and interpret commerce and welfare clauses to manage everything. They are in every aspect of our lives. We have got to go back to the Tenth Amendment and move power out of DC.”
5/5/2010 11:17:46 AM Answer Cherilyn Eagar “The Constitution was written by many. James Madison was not an attorney. He was a philosopher. Article 1 Section 8 should be a limitation .
Some refused to come to the Constitutional Convention. Patrick Henry was the champion of the Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment and the Tenth amendment. When you look at everything wrong you can go back to the Constitution and find where we are out of line.
I support the enumerated powers act.”
5/5/2010 11:19:20 AM Answer Mike Lee “The Constitution offers answers and real solutions. It describes what we should do. It sets up a procedure manual as well as thou shalt nots. It limited and didn’t grant powers.
I think the Tenth Amendment is the most important. The rights are reserved to the States and people.
So we look back at the original sections. If Congress will look at itself as bound by the document then they will unlock potential from the rest of the individuals.”
5/5/2010 11:20:48 AM Answer Bob Bennett “I yield to no one on my reverence of the Constitution. I have discovered that not everyone agrees. Two of my colleagues have taught Constitutional law and they are Obama and Biden. Their understanding is different than mine. When Madison and Hamilton wrote they worked together. Later they disagreed on banks. George Washington sided with Hamilton.
I am offended by those who say their interpretation is the only one. I am in the tradition of the founding fathers. We must use it as a basis, but we have decided that the Supreme Court resolves these things.”
5/5/2010 11:22:43 AM Break Doug Wright
5/5/2010 11:26:38 AM Question Doug Wright Health care?
5/5/2010 11:26:53 AM Answer Cherilyn Eagar “I love this issue. My father was a surgeon as I said earlier. The AMA betrayed their industry and us as people. They owned the CPC codes and they betrayed us to preseve their own bottom line. Takebackmedicine.com. The AMA defeated Hillary Care and they will be in Salt Lake with their convention soon.
We’ve gotta do tort reform. Liabaility is Medicaid.
Loser pay. Free market principles. We have to keep this new bill defunded. In 2012 we will hopefully have enough to override.”
5/5/2010 11:28:35 AM Answer Mike Lee “We need tort reform. Our system is about defensive medicine.
The other force is the government. Socialized as much as we have has driven up costs. States can get involved as they choose. The federal government should get out of the business. And it can not tell every living American to buy insurance or suffer penalties.”
5/5/2010 11:29:46 AM Answer Bob Bennett “Obviously I am for tort reform. We need to allow crossing state lines.
Overturn of the act. We slowed down the bill procedurally and were able to get the country against the bill. It still passed.
Present federal law will keep us in the health care system we are in.
I have been accused of bipartisanship when I tried to get the ability for people to control their own money. We have to drive the costs down.
I am glad that my opponents have seen that entitlement spending is what is taking us out.”
5/5/2010 11:31:26 AM Answer Tim Bridgewater “The voice of the small business man is missing today. As soon as Obama care was passed, the private companies started to write off the costs. They don’t get it in DC. The problem today is that frivolous lawsuits are driving costs up to 15-20%. Hospitals have to CT scan all the time.
The state has tried to control costs. We need to move the issues to the state so that we can wean off from the federal government.”
5/5/2010 11:40:49 AM Question Doug Wright Your thoughts on the economy and Tarp.
5/5/2010 11:41:19 AM Answer Mike Lee “Since the dawn of time crises have been used to expand the scope of government. Rahm Emmunael said it as well. We have done this many times.
I would have liked us to look first at what government may have been doing to make the problem happen. I would have looked at slashing taxes to no more than 10%. I would have slashed defense spending to help with that. That stimluates invesment etc.
By the time TARP I and II were completed we have spent a lot of money.”
5/5/2010 11:43:07 AM Question Doug Whitney The pressure?
5/5/2010 11:43:17 AM Answer Mike Lee Slashing corporate tax has moved companies forward. Instead we spent $750 billion.
5/5/2010 11:43:49 AM Answer Bob Bennett “We were told we had four days to act. We were told that we had to move or suffer a precipe. We had to act and quickly. I took the action I did because we were presented with the facts.
I talked to businesses here in Utah and they talked about their collapse. TARP I has been paid back and with interest.
The expansion came with Obama. I have talked with every economist and they have said we did the right thing.
Mitt Romney said this was correct and courageous. The crisis was real and we needed to do it. I would act to save the country.”
5/5/2010 11:45:38 AM Answer Tim Bridgewater “The fundamentals were in play before the crisis. We made loans that people couldn’t pay back. We allowed a trillion dollar junk bill market. We had a disaster that was focused on AIG primarily. We said let Lehman brothers fail, but since AIG was too big we said that we had to save them. This mentality will hurt us if we don’t fix it.
There is a bill that will continue to support this process of too big to fail.
We should have dismantled and share it with other companies who would have bought. We did a lot of things wrong.
We didn’t change the mark to market we didn’t do this methodically.
When a bank fails they dismantle cleanly.”
5/5/2010 11:47:37 AM Answer Cherilyn Eagar “We all agree on many things with our Senator as well. But he had more than 4 days. To see this crisis. We were watching this bubble as a couple and we could see the bubble.
We didn’t get a bailout with my company. Many economists disagree and think we should have let the companies fail and bounce back stronger. We are prolonging and repeating what happened in the prior depression.
We could have had a quicker rebound. When we give too much power to federal government and the Federal reserve then we need to audit them. We need to see what is going on there.”
5/5/2010 11:49:33 AM Break Doug Wright Tim Bridgewater commercial
5/5/2010 11:54:46 AM Closing Cherilyn Eagar “I want to close with this thought. The budget should be balanced the . . People should learn to work.”” Cicero. He was assassinated for saying these things. Rome fell. We have a choice and I urge you to choose Cherilyn Eagar for Senate.”
5/5/2010 11:55:43 AM Closing Tim Bridgewater “Look at my site. We need a new group there in DC. We need to move forward immigration and cut taxes.
We have to go for entitlement reforms or we will self destruct.
I am a kid from a trailer park and am running for the Senate.”
5/5/2010 11:56:39 AM Closing Bob Bennett I am disturbed by the number of Utahns who believe we can’t solve our problems. We are Americans and have overcome in the past. We overcame the Civil War. We must focus on solutions and not just sound bites and slogans. I have the background and a solution. I trust that the American people and Utahns will do the right things. Don’t trust the outside people.
5/5/2010 11:57:43 AM Closing Mike Lee “Please go to my site to learn more. I am going to 132 E Street now to meet with delegates.
I focus on the Constitution because we don’t all interpret it the same way. We don’t always agree but it set up the foundation. If we focus on the text and the original understanding we can narrow this down to something smaller, that it why I am running.”

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